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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:23 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: So.. Johan Larsson??? So... Johan Larsson???
BeefCoon
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 03.31.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
Self inflicted myocarditis.

So insufferable.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
Johan ZARsson
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 12:34 PM ET
Self inflicted myocarditis.

So insufferable.

- BeefCoon

My body my choice. No not like that.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 12:40 PM ET
Well I guess that's 2 sh!tty dmen out of 6 accumulating cup rings and finals appearances riding on the backs of others hahah
- MattStrat


For reference...

Pens 17 cup roster had
Schultz
Hainsey
Maatta
Cole
Dumo
Daley

You telling me Daley and Hainsey were "great" because they won a cup? lol because my bh definitely clinched every time Hainsey was on the ice.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 14 @ 12:42 PM ET
Balcers 1 yr $750k , would have rathered that that than Arch
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:57 PM ET
Friedman had a stroke and meant Jack Johnson 7 years
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 1:00 PM ET
For reference...

Pens 17 cup roster had
Schultz
Hainsey
Maatta
Cole
Dumo
Daley

You telling me Daley and Hainsey were "great" because they won a cup? lol because my bh definitely clinched every time Hainsey was on the ice.

- j.boyd919

JJ won a cup too
MaxHyjinx
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.03.2018

Jul 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
JJ won a cup too
- Feds91Stammer


And the corpse of Brooks Orpik with the Caps.
BeefCoon
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 03.31.2016

Jul 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
My body my choice. No not like that.
- Feds91Stammer


Exactly.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
For reference...

Pens 17 cup roster had
Schultz
Hainsey
Maatta
Cole
Dumo
Daley

You telling me Daley and Hainsey were "great" because they won a cup? lol because my bh definitely clinched every time Hainsey was on the ice.

- j.boyd919


hahaha no...I'm not telling you that at all.

My point is, even though I dont like the signing and think it was totally unnecessary, I dont think this guy is going to be all that detrimental to the overall team D, if at all. Also, guys like Gudbranson or Ceci, who no one here wanted anything to do with, played pretty good hockey for us under Sully's systems and direction after all the b!tching and moaning about acquiring them dust settled.

EDIT: had to circle back to say that cup winning D corps was fvcking bonkers. When I look at that list I just say to myself "wow, how?" hahaha
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
I actually do find a lot of value in what someone like ZAR/Larsson bring. Under $2 mil I don’t think it’s so much a luxury and actually a really important role. The cap space has dried up which is a problem as we still have top 9 holes to plug, but assuming it’s a normal contract for a 4th liner and not something stupid, Larsson isn’t one of the moves that would be the problem. I’d point to Ruta and McGinn as the unnecessary self inflected cap anchors. Ruta we’re stuck with as a new signing but if we want to plug all our holes we’ll have to send McGinn out ontop of a LW. I doubt that’s something Hex will do in year 2 of a contract he gave out though.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
hahaha no...I'm not telling you that at all.

My point is, even though I dont like the signing and think it was totally unnecessary, I dont think this guy is going to be all that detrimental to the overall team D, if at all. Also, guys like Gudbranson or Ceci, who no one here wanted anything to do with, played pretty good hockey for us under Sully's systems and direction after all the b!tching and moaning about acquiring them dust settled.

EDIT: had to circle back to say that cup winning D corps was fvcking bonkers. When I look at that list I just say to myself "wow, how?" hahaha

- MattStrat

“Give him a chance” - barna… wait (frank), MattStrat
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
hahaha no...I'm not telling you that at all.

My point is, even though I dont like the signing and think it was totally unnecessary, I dont think this guy is going to be all that detrimental to the overall team D, if at all. Also, guys like Gudbranson or Ceci, who no one here wanted anything to do with, played pretty good hockey for us under Sully's systems and direction after all the b!tching and moaning about acquiring them dust settled.

EDIT: had to circle back to say that cup winning D corps was fvcking bonkers. When I look at that list I just say to myself "wow, how?" hahaha

- MattStrat


Yup, I remember. Happens every time a defenseman is acquired who isn't flashy on offense or a big hitter. Granted they already have some of that on the roster, but that doesn't mean Rutta will be a negative asset and hurt the team. He obviously didn't hurt Tampa enough to keep them from getting to the Cup Final again, and I'm not going to be as silly to say Hedman carried him. No one gets carried at that level, not for 76 games as the No. 1 pairing.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
For reference...

Pens 17 cup roster had
Schultz
Hainsey
Maatta
Cole
Dumo
Daley

You telling me Daley and Hainsey were "great" because they won a cup? lol because my bh definitely clinched every time Hainsey was on the ice.

- j.boyd919


This D group should go down in Penguins lore, easily my favorite D group we had for a playoff run. Look, not the absolute most talented group but those guys battled every second of every shift. Hainsey looked like he was juggling grenades but then out of nowhere he would walk the puck end to end.

These guys threw themselves in front of every shot and just got demolished by forecheckers but they just kept going to war with it. It doesn't make them all-stars who deserve huge contracts but they will always hold a special place in my Penguins memories.

There is something to be said about having a bunch of guys who are hungry and will do whatever it takes to win.


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Balcers 1 yr $750k , would have rathered that that than Arch
- kfinl170


Agreed.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 14 @ 1:54 PM ET
More like NOhan Larsson
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:58 PM ET
Yup, I remember. Happens every time a defenseman is acquired who isn't flashy on offense or a big hitter. Granted they already have some of that on the roster, but that doesn't mean Rutta will be a negative asset and hurt the team. He obviously didn't hurt Tampa enough to keep them from getting to the Cup Final again, and I'm not going to be as silly to say Hedman carried him. No one gets carried at that level, not for 76 games as the No. 1 pairing.
- NJPensfan


Exactly. I like to think the Tampa organization is the cream of crop the last 3 or 4 seasons and they were trusting this guy in a very important role the past two seasons and three playoffs (he played most of finals vs Stars)...a role that was most likely much bigger than he will have with the Pens.

I will say though that how the signing will most likely be detrimental, if not already, is taking away cap space for better forwards. That size of cap hit for what he brings is totally unnecessary for the Pens in their cap situation.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 14 @ 2:03 PM ET
Quite a bit of chatter from Canadian sports media and hockey analysts up here at the time that Hedman wasn't right at all on the ice, was dealing with a nagging injury in these playoffs, especially the first series vs TO.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
More like NOhan Larsson
- Rinosaur


Did he sign elsewhere?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
· 3m
Friedman on the Canucks going after PITT D John Marino : I think there conversations with VAN. I think they were close to moving him last week but not to the #Canucks.


I think OTT is another team looking to add an RHD, but no mention of the other teams of interest.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
Did he sign elsewhere?
- kfinl170


No, I just meant that we've heard nothing, so it may have been nothing.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 14 @ 2:23 PM ET
Doesnt VAN have all their D on contracts?
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
A little odd that a ton of players are still available but literally 0 action today. I know it drastically slows after the first day, but still seems weird to have total crickets on day 2
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jul 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
Yup, I remember. Happens every time a defenseman is acquired who isn't flashy on offense or a big hitter. Granted they already have some of that on the roster, but that doesn't mean Rutta will be a negative asset and hurt the team. He obviously didn't hurt Tampa enough to keep them from getting to the Cup Final again, and I'm not going to be as silly to say Hedman carried him. No one gets carried at that level, not for 76 games as the No. 1 pairing.
- NJPensfan


I agree with this, at least we didn't designate him the 'worst defenseman' in the league, as per usual.

To piggy back off the last blog, what I was trying to say is Marino isn't the guy you trade. He is still quite young and has room to step up his game.

Dumo is the guy you trade for cap space. I doubt you can get much for him. Pettersson has the best chance to bring something back. Most likely in a multi-player trade.
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